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Android Deleted From Linux Kernel

http://phandroid.com/2010/02/06/android-deleted-from-linux-kernel/

This is an old news. Does anyone know the latest situation ?

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    As a direct result of the conversations at the Linux Collaboration Summit, Google had decided to devote some members of their android team to porting their kernel modifications and submitting them to the Linux Kernel team. I know that Google has some ARM drivers in the mainline kernel, but I do not know if any other source code has been submitted yet.
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    fishchip2 wrote:
    Android Deleted From Linux Kernel
    http://phandroid.com/2010/02/06/android-deleted-from-linux-kernel/

    This is an old news. Does anyone know the latest situation ?


    Last time I checked they were planning in getting in back to the main line. Don't know if that has happened yet
  • Posts: 19

    When I browse the linux kernel source at[url] http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v2.6.34/[/url], I type "android" in the search field. There are some search results related to the string 'android'.

    Can I conclude, up to now, android is still part of the linux kernel? Maybe only kernel moderators can answer my question . . .
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    I have pieced it together from the author e-mail addresses and device type.

    if you grep the contents of the kernel for "@google.com" you will see their contributions, the majority of them so far are ARM drivers which apply to mobile electronics and I assume the android devices.

    If you want the command I use to parse out specific files that have had contributions from specific domains then I will share it in here.
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    If you want the command I use to parse out specific files that have had contributions from specific domains then I will share it in here.

    No. Thanks. I just want to know if google wants to follow the linux community or establish her standard by using andriod,
  • Posts: 158
    I can't imagine that Google has the desire to create a completely separate fork of the Linux Kernel, independant of the rest of the planet's work. that doesn't mean that they will continue to make significant contributions back to the kernel, either. But I suspect, based on their FOSS track record, that we can expect them to continue to make contributions. Besides, If they want to continue using the Linux kernel source as the base for their own kernel, then it makes sense that they would want some input into the larger development process as a whole (which would mean continued code contributions). I mean, I think the only other option is forking, and could become quite a headache for them.
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    When I was at the Linux Collaboration Summit in April there was a lot of talk about this, and the direction that Google is taking with Android. From what I got out of these discussions is that they are going to work to merge back into the mainstream. This will take some time, so the fork will exist most likely for the next couple of years. The question for me is what will be the results of two Linux mobile systems, Android and MeeGo, on the market. In any case, everyone was trying to "make nice" at the summit, and at least paying lip service to closer collaboration between Android and MeeGo. In any case, only time will tell how it all works out.
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    I loved the question at the summit about kernel contributions from Android. In light of that pressure Chris DiBona pledged to hire two coders to assist in pushing android based kernel revisions back into the mainstream as per http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/dibona-google-will-hire-two-android-coders-to-work-with-kernelorg/6274.

    Rubberman, hopefully if we both go again next year we can meet up for some discussions. ;)
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    But I think Google 's incentive to merge depends upon Meego 's development.
    If Meego can pose a threat to Android, Google should not have sent just 2 programmers.

    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/dibona-google-will-hire-two-android-coders-to-work-with-kernelorg/6274

    See also: COMPUTEX 2010 -- MeeGo UI ÔΩ¢Gnome not QTÔΩ£@ Taipei
    The language is traditional Chinese, but the Desktop UI is Gnome, not QT. This is queer. . .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvpKs42_tgI&feature=related
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    Meego seems promising, but based upon what I heard at the presentations the apps store layout they are planning on may be the downfall.
    As per your note about the UI, the core is all based on GTK, but the app development will be on QT.
  • Posts: 647
    mfillpot wrote:
    As per your note about the UI, the core is all based on GTK, but the app development will be on QT.

    Not true:

    http://meego.com/developers/meego-architecture
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    mfillpot wrote:
    Meego seems promising, but based upon what I heard at the presentations the apps store layout they are planning on may be the downfall.

    Downfall? On an rpm based system? If the apps store is not good... well, community to the rescue! I've seen it happen on the Maemo platform ;)

    Regards
  • Posts: 2,177
    Based upon what they stated during the presentations at the collab summit the apps store will not be centralized, each cell network provider will be responsible for hosting their own apps store, if that does happen it will be too much work for for app developers and they will just avoid development.
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    mfillpot wrote:
    Based upon what they stated during the presentations at the collab summit the apps store will not be centralized, each cell network provider will be responsible for hosting their own apps store, if that does happen it will be too much work for for app developers and they will just avoid development.

    Yea that doesn't sound like a great plan of action if you want to make your OS widely available.
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    My issue isn't with the availability, it will be pushed widely by Nokia. The issue is with the app availability, consumers will not be very inclined to purchase a system which has apps varied by cell phone providers. The success of apple and android is based upon the app catalogs, fragmenting the catalogs will only make it harder for the consumers to find what they want.
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    mfillpot wrote:
    I loved the question at the summit about kernel contributions from Android. In light of that pressure Chris DiBona pledged to hire two coders to assist in pushing android based kernel revisions back into the mainstream as per http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/dibona-google-will-hire-two-android-coders-to-work-with-kernelorg/6274.

    Rubberman, hopefully if we both go again next year we can meet up for some discussions. ;)

    I hope so. Did we maybe meet this year? Lots of great conversations and head-banging! :-)
  • Posts: 2,177
    woboyle wrote:

    I hope so. Did we maybe meet this year? Lots of great conversations and head-banging! :-)[/quote]

    I don't think we met, I spent most of my time with the nokia/meego developers, MasonM (the linux.com ultimate guru) and hanging out in front with the smokers. I definitely did not socialize as much as I should have, and I also learn that next time I go I should bring business cards.

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